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Meng Hu's avatar

Playtime is over everyone. I'm tired of watching the thread becoming a trollfest. If you can't act civilized, you will be banned. I already banned 3 persons (edit: now 4). If you have nothing to contribute, avoid leaving a comment. I will delete anything that fuels trolls or hatred. The thread is filled with useless comments as of now.

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Just to add a little energy flow perspective:

The places in Africa that supported civilisation (Egypt, Ethiopian Highlands and parts of the Western river valleys) are the only places that could. Human civilization seems to form where the landscape captures energy and concentrates large flows into small, highly transformative areas. These are often the river valleys of of big mountain chains or broad highland areas, but can also be coastal/archipelago areas where resources can be captured easily by the people themselves and concentrated from the sea, or highland plateau areas where energy is captured but doesn't necessarily have an easy escape to the sea (valley of Mexico perfect example).

The examples are plenty and include; Chinese cradle on the Yellow river plain, Indian cradle on the Ganges plain, Mesopotamian cradle in the fertile crescent, Egyptian Cradle on the Nile, Classical Cradle in the Aegean Archipelago, Mesoamercian cradle in the Mexican/Guatemalan isthmus, Andean cradle in the Andean valleys/highlands, Faustian/western European cradle in the Benelux river valleys (which includes Seine and Thames). Future predicted sites include the Volga basin for a future Russian civilisation, and the Ohio river valley for a North American one. The higher the mountains, the greater the energy captured, which is why the biggest civs/populations have always been China and India, and the brief Faustian pulse we are going through is due to the seafaring ability to capture global resources, which the Classical did on a lesser scale in the Mediterranean.

The African continent itself has massive issues in this regard due to its unique structure regarding the relationship between coast and inland (escapement) and relative lack of high mountain chains which capture energy and concentrate it, with the Nile/Ethiopia being the only place it really gets going, so it's no surprise that civilisation was found there. Civilization is also harder in the truly tropical places because the lack of seasonal pulse (either winter freeze or wet/dry) makes grain agriculture maladaptive.

This doesn't dispute the inherent differences between Africans and Eurasians, just highlights that the Continent itself isn't conducive to traditional civilisation.

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